I did a little digging on the Ancestry website and may have found a woman who has researched your family. I also looked at a few websites for additional documentation. This info is simply what I found (not verified this is your family), but I hope it's correct.
Jeanette's maiden name was Dow. She was born on October 8, 1882, at the Dow Settlement, Carleton, New Brunswick. Her parents were Aaron Dow and Lydia Cummings. The Dow family has a long history and this website has a lot of info: http://www.dowlink.net/not_our_family_line.htm (you'll find Aaron and Lydia mentioned at the bottom of this page).
Jeanette married James W Scovil (son of William and Sarah Jane Scovil). They had at least 3 children, Ada (b 1884), Alena (b 1886) and Elzina May (b 1891). Elzina married Louis Milton Patterson on Nov 1, 1913 in Nelson, BC. I didn't find anything abuot the other two children.
Census records show Jeanette and James in New Brunswick until 1911, then in the 1921 census they're living in Silverton, West Kootenays, BC. James is listed as a rancher, and he owns the ranch. As they're older now, none of the children are living with them.
The BC Archives has the death registration of James Woodbury Scovil at Nelson, BC, on May 18, 1941. The document is not available online but a copy can be ordered from the Victoria Genealogical Society (www.victoriags.org). Assuming this man is Jeanette's husband, the death registration may indicate that his middle name is also mother's maiden name (Woodbury). Worth looking in to, I think.
Frank Walters imagines he is pursued by enemies.
Constable Ince (1) returned this week from a trip to New Westminster where he went to place Frank Walters in the insane asylum. During the trip Walters made three attempts to end his existence and would probably have succeeded in doing so had it not been for the watchfulness of the constable. While on the boat between Robson and Arrowhead, Walters attempted twice to jump into the lake and once had one leg over the side in the act of springing when his custodian hauled him back. while on the train he endeavored to jump off while it was going at full speed.
Walters is a native of Hamburg, Germany and as far as known, has no friends in this country. He was employed up the lake as a wood cutter for West and Emerson (2) and during a spell of sickness was brought to the hospital at Nelson. While there he developed insanity and it was decided to send him to the asylum. He labors under the hallucination that he is constantly pursued by enemies and that his life is in danger.
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In the 1901 census, Frank is at the New Westminster asylum, and by the time the 1911 census comes along he is at the Vernon Asylum, (in 1904 the Vernon asylum was opened and 48 male patients from New Westminster were moved there) sometime after 1911 he was transferred to Essondale where he passed away on the 6th of May 1929 at the age of 70.
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(1) Constable Robert Ince, was a guard at the Provincial jail, Nelson.
Robert Ince, served in WWI, and had a long service with North West Mounted Police
(2) Frank Elliott Emerson; Charles William West; Wood dealers, draymen agents Standard Oil Co.
Frank Elliott Emerson, d.3 Oct.,1938, Sidney, B.C. age 67
Charles William West, d.3 Aug., 1921, Trail, B.C. age 65.
Bertha Helen Sulem, was born in Lom, Norway on December 14th 1872. the death certificate lists cause of death as, exhaustion of involutional melancholia, on the 12th of December 1933, at the age of 60.
Her brother Thorsten "Tom" Sulem is buried in Mountain View Cemetery in Vancouver, he passed away on the 31st of August 1943, at the age of 75, in Vancouver. Helen's sister Mary Sulem,(1870-1946) was married to Ole Ringheim,(1859-1928), both buried in Creston, B.C. "Tom" and Helen lived together in Wynndel, where Tom had a mixed farm, specializing in fruit. Their father was Thomas John Sulem.
Creston Review, December 22, 1933
Wynndel has lost another highly respected citizen in the death of Miss Bertha Helen Sulem, who passed away at Essondale, B.C., on December 12th at the age of 62 years. Deceased was a native of Lom, Norway, and came to America with her parents, who first located at Watonwan, Minnesota, and later moved to Vidora, Saskatchewan, from which the deceased came to Wynndel in 1923, and had made her home with her brother, T. Sulem. The late Miss Sulem, while of a quiet and retiring disposition made many friends during her residence here and is survived by three sisters, Mrs. Gouper of Minneapolis, Minnesota, Mrs. Ringheim of Kimberley, Mrs. Smith of Wynndel, and one brother Tom Sulem, who resides here. Burial was at Essondale.
[ Typical at this time for indigent patients to be buried at P.M.H.,(Woodlands) burials would not start at Essondale,(actually was named Riverview Hospital by then) until 1958. ]
Verbatim newspaper article:
Creston Review March 24, 1933
Antoine Methieu, a resident of Creston, who was taken to Essondale for treatment at the middle of last week, died there on Monday, according to word reaching Creston on Wednesday. He had been at Creston for the past two or three years, and with his brother was employed as house painter and decorator.
BCArchives: Antoine Maheu 20 March 1933 69yrs.
Sadly his brother also passed away just over a year later:
Creston Review August 3, 1934
Missing since Sunday, July 22nd, the body of Jack Mathieu was taken from the Goat River near the first bridge on the K.V. Highway on Monday afternoon. Deceased, who lived alone, was not missed until late in the week, and when the police were notified and on forcing an entrance to his shack discovered a note that indicated suicide was the motive. Deceased was a painter by trade and had long been unemployed, and those intimately acquainted with him state he was of late taking a morbid view of life. The dead man was 50 years of age. The funeral took place on Tuesday to Creston Cemetery.
BCArchives: John Matheu d.22 July 1934 58 years old, at Creston.
This is my great great grandmother. I don't know much about her since my mother was adopted. I want to learn more if anyone has any information. Thanks.
Your parents cared so much for you, their only child. They were so happy to take you on that visit to Scotland in 1898, being able to show you where they grew up.
I just received Katie Joe's file from the RBCM today in the mail. Katie was my great grandmother who was sent to Essondale back in July of 1923 and passed away on May 18, 1926. She was my grandfather Harry Joe's mother and was sent to New Westminster when my grandfather was still a teenager. She was sent there from a small First Nations community in the Yukon called Hutshi and not knowing but a few words of English. A picture was included in the file that I received and I have never had a happier day then to see it as it is probably the only picture of her around. Back in July 2013 I sent an email to someone (can't remember the name) at the RBCM in regards to where my Great Grandmother Katie was buried. I never did get a response but found out in the file where she was buried. I did further research on your website and to my horror found out she was buried at Woodlands and that it was made into a park in 1976. She is under cemetery block: 7 cemetery plot 39. After knowing for years about Grandma Katie and her time at Essondale as well as knowing she was down there somewhere it was heartbreaking finding out the fate of the graveyard. I used to live in the Fraser Valley for over 10 years and had I know then what I know now I would have made the trip to New West. I am heading to Vancouver at the end of the month and would like to know if you have a better map than just the coordinates provided on this website that I can have access to. Through our potlatch ceremonies, I was give Great Grandma Kitty (she was known as Kitty Joe not Katie up in the Yukon)name back in 1998. Her traditional name was Gakhaket and as far as I know I am the only one who carries that name. Please please let me know if you have a map so that I can make the long overdue trip to where she was buried. I don't think any one of our family has been to her grave since she passed away. My heart is heavy.
Hi Melanie, Thank you for your kind words and I would be more than happy to share my Grandfather's story in your journal. I have done a better edited version, and would be happy to send it to you. I thinks its important for us to know where we came from and our families history. It helps us figure out where we are going in life!
Do you have an email address? Or you can email me, ill at dccnet dot com
Hi Lisa,
In researching one of my great Uncles I came across Michael de Courcy's website and the story of Alfred. I found this to be very poignant and I share your passion for finding out what happened to our long lost family members.
I would like your permission to have Alfred's story re-printed in the Journal of the Victoria Genealogical Society (a non-profit group dedicated to family history and BC history). I'm sure our members will enjoy reading about your family and what you did to bring Alfred back into the folds. With the McNeill family connection to Victoria I know the local aspect will captivate many of our members.
Please visit our website, www.victoriags.org, to find out a bit more about us. I look forward to hearing from you soon.
I did a little digging on the Ancestry website and may have found a woman who has researched your family. I also looked at a few websites for additional documentation. This info is simply what I found (not verified this is your family), but I hope it's correct.
Jeanette's maiden name was Dow. She was born on October 8, 1882, at the Dow Settlement, Carleton, New Brunswick. Her parents were Aaron Dow and Lydia Cummings. The Dow family has a long history and this website has a lot of info: http://www.dowlink.net/not_our_family_line.htm (you'll find Aaron and Lydia mentioned at the bottom of this page).
Jeanette married James W Scovil (son of William and Sarah Jane Scovil). They had at least 3 children, Ada (b 1884), Alena (b 1886) and Elzina May (b 1891). Elzina married Louis Milton Patterson on Nov 1, 1913 in Nelson, BC. I didn't find anything abuot the other two children.
Census records show Jeanette and James in New Brunswick until 1911, then in the 1921 census they're living in Silverton, West Kootenays, BC. James is listed as a rancher, and he owns the ranch. As they're older now, none of the children are living with them.
The BC Archives has the death registration of James Woodbury Scovil at Nelson, BC, on May 18, 1941. The document is not available online but a copy can be ordered from the Victoria Genealogical Society (www.victoriags.org). Assuming this man is Jeanette's husband, the death registration may indicate that his middle name is also mother's maiden name (Woodbury). Worth looking in to, I think.
I hope this helps.
Mel, mytree at mennies dot ca
There's a bit of info about Jeanette Scovil on her death registration. Here's the link (it's long): http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/DisplayGenealogy...
A little information about Frank Walters, whose name I suspect is an anglicized name.
Frank Walters
http://www.michaeldecourcy.com/dead_and_buried/node/695
1897 October 9; The Miner, (Nelson,B.C.)
TAKEN TO THE ASYLUM
Frank Walters imagines he is pursued by enemies.
Constable Ince (1) returned this week from a trip to New Westminster where he went to place Frank Walters in the insane asylum. During the trip Walters made three attempts to end his existence and would probably have succeeded in doing so had it not been for the watchfulness of the constable. While on the boat between Robson and Arrowhead, Walters attempted twice to jump into the lake and once had one leg over the side in the act of springing when his custodian hauled him back. while on the train he endeavored to jump off while it was going at full speed.
Walters is a native of Hamburg, Germany and as far as known, has no friends in this country. He was employed up the lake as a wood cutter for West and Emerson (2) and during a spell of sickness was brought to the hospital at Nelson. While there he developed insanity and it was decided to send him to the asylum. He labors under the hallucination that he is constantly pursued by enemies and that his life is in danger.
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In the 1901 census, Frank is at the New Westminster asylum, and by the time the 1911 census comes along he is at the Vernon Asylum, (in 1904 the Vernon asylum was opened and 48 male patients from New Westminster were moved there) sometime after 1911 he was transferred to Essondale where he passed away on the 6th of May 1929 at the age of 70.
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(1) Constable Robert Ince, was a guard at the Provincial jail, Nelson.
Robert Ince, served in WWI, and had a long service with North West Mounted Police
(2) Frank Elliott Emerson; Charles William West; Wood dealers, draymen agents Standard Oil Co.
Frank Elliott Emerson, d.3 Oct.,1938, Sidney, B.C. age 67
Charles William West, d.3 Aug., 1921, Trail, B.C. age 65.
This is from an article I did a while ago and posted here http://essondale.blogspot.ca/2013/07/frank-walters.html
where it contains links to more information about those concerned in the story.
Cheers
Bertha Helen Sulem, was born in Lom, Norway on December 14th 1872. the death certificate lists cause of death as, exhaustion of involutional melancholia, on the 12th of December 1933, at the age of 60.
Her brother Thorsten "Tom" Sulem is buried in Mountain View Cemetery in Vancouver, he passed away on the 31st of August 1943, at the age of 75, in Vancouver. Helen's sister Mary Sulem,(1870-1946) was married to Ole Ringheim,(1859-1928), both buried in Creston, B.C. "Tom" and Helen lived together in Wynndel, where Tom had a mixed farm, specializing in fruit. Their father was Thomas John Sulem.
Creston Review, December 22, 1933
Wynndel has lost another highly respected citizen in the death of Miss Bertha Helen Sulem, who passed away at Essondale, B.C., on December 12th at the age of 62 years. Deceased was a native of Lom, Norway, and came to America with her parents, who first located at Watonwan, Minnesota, and later moved to Vidora, Saskatchewan, from which the deceased came to Wynndel in 1923, and had made her home with her brother, T. Sulem. The late Miss Sulem, while of a quiet and retiring disposition made many friends during her residence here and is survived by three sisters, Mrs. Gouper of Minneapolis, Minnesota, Mrs. Ringheim of Kimberley, Mrs. Smith of Wynndel, and one brother Tom Sulem, who resides here. Burial was at Essondale.
[ Typical at this time for indigent patients to be buried at P.M.H.,(Woodlands) burials would not start at Essondale,(actually was named Riverview Hospital by then) until 1958. ]
Verbatim newspaper article:
Creston Review March 24, 1933
Antoine Methieu, a resident of Creston, who was taken to Essondale for treatment at the middle of last week, died there on Monday, according to word reaching Creston on Wednesday. He had been at Creston for the past two or three years, and with his brother was employed as house painter and decorator.
BCArchives: Antoine Maheu 20 March 1933 69yrs.
Sadly his brother also passed away just over a year later:
Creston Review August 3, 1934
Missing since Sunday, July 22nd, the body of Jack Mathieu was taken from the Goat River near the first bridge on the K.V. Highway on Monday afternoon. Deceased, who lived alone, was not missed until late in the week, and when the police were notified and on forcing an entrance to his shack discovered a note that indicated suicide was the motive. Deceased was a painter by trade and had long been unemployed, and those intimately acquainted with him state he was of late taking a morbid view of life. The dead man was 50 years of age. The funeral took place on Tuesday to Creston Cemetery.
BCArchives: John Matheu d.22 July 1934 58 years old, at Creston.
[ found while researching Essondale history ]
This is my great great grandmother. I don't know much about her since my mother was adopted. I want to learn more if anyone has any information. Thanks.
Your parents cared so much for you, their only child. They were so happy to take you on that visit to Scotland in 1898, being able to show you where they grew up.
I just received Katie Joe's file from the RBCM today in the mail. Katie was my great grandmother who was sent to Essondale back in July of 1923 and passed away on May 18, 1926. She was my grandfather Harry Joe's mother and was sent to New Westminster when my grandfather was still a teenager. She was sent there from a small First Nations community in the Yukon called Hutshi and not knowing but a few words of English. A picture was included in the file that I received and I have never had a happier day then to see it as it is probably the only picture of her around. Back in July 2013 I sent an email to someone (can't remember the name) at the RBCM in regards to where my Great Grandmother Katie was buried. I never did get a response but found out in the file where she was buried. I did further research on your website and to my horror found out she was buried at Woodlands and that it was made into a park in 1976. She is under cemetery block: 7 cemetery plot 39. After knowing for years about Grandma Katie and her time at Essondale as well as knowing she was down there somewhere it was heartbreaking finding out the fate of the graveyard. I used to live in the Fraser Valley for over 10 years and had I know then what I know now I would have made the trip to New West. I am heading to Vancouver at the end of the month and would like to know if you have a better map than just the coordinates provided on this website that I can have access to. Through our potlatch ceremonies, I was give Great Grandma Kitty (she was known as Kitty Joe not Katie up in the Yukon)name back in 1998. Her traditional name was Gakhaket and as far as I know I am the only one who carries that name. Please please let me know if you have a map so that I can make the long overdue trip to where she was buried. I don't think any one of our family has been to her grave since she passed away. My heart is heavy.
Hi Melanie, Thank you for your kind words and I would be more than happy to share my Grandfather's story in your journal. I have done a better edited version, and would be happy to send it to you. I thinks its important for us to know where we came from and our families history. It helps us figure out where we are going in life!
Do you have an email address? Or you can email me, ill at dccnet dot com
Haw'aa
Lisa
Hi Lisa,
In researching one of my great Uncles I came across Michael de Courcy's website and the story of Alfred. I found this to be very poignant and I share your passion for finding out what happened to our long lost family members.
I would like your permission to have Alfred's story re-printed in the Journal of the Victoria Genealogical Society (a non-profit group dedicated to family history and BC history). I'm sure our members will enjoy reading about your family and what you did to bring Alfred back into the folds. With the McNeill family connection to Victoria I know the local aspect will captivate many of our members.
Please visit our website, www.victoriags.org, to find out a bit more about us. I look forward to hearing from you soon.
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